You are here: Magazines > GunHunter > Articles. Match bullets. Up for sale is a used Pre-64 Winchester 70 “Westerner” Rifle (.264 Win. Grab a box of 180-grain Nosler Partition or Barnes TSX in the .300 Winchester, and just go hunting. The case is certainly overbore, and I’ve found the best performance comes in longer barrels. Subscribe today to have GunHunter delivered to your home. Hunting. The 264 Win Mag really was not on my radar as commercial 6.5 CM ammo easily beats the commercial offerings for the 264 WM from a hunting distance perspective. I used a 130-grain AccuBond in a Nosler Custom load to take the first big game animal to fall to that bullet. Unfortunately, most shooters and hunters found that the advertised velocity figures published by Winchester were a bit on the optimistic side, and that 3100 fps was closer to the mark, even with the longer barrel. You input will be appreciated. Like the .30-06, it is a fantastic all-around choice, perfectly suitable for all but the largest of dangerous game. The .264 wm is coming back around because of the popularity of long range, and high bc 6.5 bullets available. He handloads so it really opened things up for him. ... Berger makes a hunting bullet but I will stick with Barnes. Bulk Ammunition on sale, including 264 Win Mag Rifle Rounds. by Philip Massaro - On my first trip to Africa, I took a custom .264 rifle built by Charlie Sisk loaded with 125-grain Partitions and cleanly took a wildebeest cow and a nice bushbuck at 210 and 60 yards, respectively. That doesn’t bother me at all, and apparently it doesn’t bother Remington because they recognize the cartridge still has a following and are chambering the Model 700 Sendero SF rifle for it. While the supply of the classic British cartridges from the pre-World War I era began to dwindle, the American market was burgeoning with all sorts of developments. Premium .264-caliber 130-grain bullets are long for their weight. The bullet hit just under the spine and penetrated the diaphragm, dropping the bull where it stood. Small bores, however, are not the best thing to have in one's hands should things go up the spout and you have to stop a … Friday, December 6, 2019. The most common .264 bullet is the 140-grainer. The .300 Winchester Magnum can be loaded to roar like a lion or purr like a kitty. While the Swedes use the marvelous 6.5×55 to harvest thousands of moose per year, Alaska moose hunting and Swedish moose hunting is a bit different. I have handloaded both ends of the spectrum, with the 160-grain round-nosed bullets slowing down to around 2800 fps, and I’ve broken the 3700 fps mark with the light-for-caliber 85-grain hollow-point bullets, but I’ve also seen that 1:9" twist spin the core out of some of those bullets, sending shrapnel downrange instead of a projectile. Is the .264 destined for obscurity? Esmith, As for the 264 Win Mag, just start with loads listed in your reloading manuals and go from there because there's no guarantee that what works in another fellas rifle will work in yours So there’s the .264 Win Mag’s edge: higher retained velocity, more expansion and greater tissue destruction. Looking for previous installments of our "Behind the Bullet" series? i like the TSX. There are still not many .264 Win Mag factory loads available, but I will be shooting this cartridge for a long time, even if I have to handload every round. More interesting, Hornady’s new 6.5mm PRC duplicates .264 Win. Still, it developed a dedicated fan base, and I could be considered a card-carrying member of the .264 cult. Match VLDs work great for hunting too. I have documented 13 kills using the 140gr Berger Target VLDs in my 6.5 rem mag. For the most part, the .264 Winchester Magnum has gone the way of the pet rock, but as a young hunter growing up in West Virginia, I always wanted a rifle in this caliber. It was introduced in the late 1950s and early 1960s with the .338 Winchester Magnum and the .458 Winchester Magnum as one of a family of short-cased 2.5 in (64 mm) belted magnum cartridges developed by Winchester based on the .375 Holland & Holland … The .270 Winchester was introduced in 1925 and has become one of the most popular hunting cartridges ever created. And “two sixty-four” has a ring to it, like “three twenty-seven” does to small-block Chevy owners. Ballistic coefficients are .574 and .450, respectively. When it did, the .264 Win. .264 Winchester Magnum - Manufacturer Loading Data. A .458 Winchester Magnum, for instance, will do little good if you shoot a bear around the edges. You dont need a sub moa rifle or bullet to kill a deer or a elk, however all of my hunting loads are sub moa out to 600 yards with the Barnrs TTSX ... Winchester Veteran member. Mag. The 1958 release of the .264 Winchester Magnum in the Model 70 Westerner rifle, with its 26-inch barrel, saw a flat-shooting, hard-hitting voluminous case, perfect for deer, elk and more. Find 264 Win Mag Ammo for sale, in-stock and ready to ship at Ammo Freedom. This 50-year-old round has .270 Win power and even better long-range performance. The .264 and .338 versions came in 1958, but the .300 Winchester Magnum — today’s best known and most popular — didn’t hit the streets until 1963. ALL 85 gr 95 gr 100 gr 110 gr 120 gr 125 gr 129 gr 130 gr 140 gr 142 gr 160 gr. Firing a 100-grain Nosler Ballistic Tip, he took a Boone & Crocket pronghorn at 150-plus yards, hitting the animal twice but seconds apart. Remington Firearms 27307 700 Sendero SF II Bolt 264 Win Mag 26" 3+1 Synthetic Black/Gray Stock Stainless Steel Out of stock View Details » View Details » Out of stock Also, as velocity increases, so does wound cavity volume and tissue destruction. My first long range match rifle had a 28" 264 Win Mag barrel. We have found that surprisingly long barrel life can be expected, even with full power loads, provided the shooter takes care not to overheat the barrel and employs frequent bore scrubbings. But there are a good many rifles, both used and new, available in the .264 Winchester Magnum, and there’s no reason to shy away from the time-proven design. The .264 Winchester Magnum was the first U.S magnum to be based on the 6.5 caliber. The .264’s longer, thinner bullets give it a slight ballistic edge over the .270, however. I used a 140-grain Berger VLD with a BC of .627 to take a red stag in New Zealand at 289 yards. Yet, the .264 Winchester—even today with Hornady’s modest muzzle velocity of 2935 fps—will give nearly the same trajectory as the .300 Winchester Magnum gives with a 180-grain bullet; with a 200-yard zero, you’ll see six inches of drop at 300 yards, and 20 inches at 400 yards. Holland themselves released the .275 H&H Magnum in 1912—the same year the .375 H&H saw daylight—with a 2.500-inch case, looking suspiciously close to Remington’s 7mm Magnum, which would be released over a half-century later. Good day everyone: I just had my Winchester model 70 re-barreled to a 264 win mag with a 1:8 twist ,26" long. Mention of the .264 Win Mag always gets my attention because I've been hunting with a Pre-64 Model-70 over 40 years. It's been one of my favorites for pronghorn, mule dear and I also take it along for rockchuck. The 264 Winchester Magnum, like many cartridges with big cases and skinny bullets, has developed a reputation as a “barrel burner”. Pistol; Rifle; Cowboy; GR. ... Late-Season Wolf Hunt. Compare the 130-grain .264 Swift Scirocco II with the same bullet in .277. 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It was still a few years before I began handloading, and the fact that a wide assortment of factory ammo was not available for the .264 resulted in my purchase of a .270 Winchester. Died over last several shots at a 600 yard match. When I received the rifle, I purchased 100 cases, and according to my notes, reloaded them four times each. Winchester chambers its Model 70 in several variants, Remington offers the 700 Sendero SFII and Cooper offers a few models as well, so while the prognosis might not look great, the heartbeat is strong. quickly faded. It’s doubtful any animal would notice the difference. In the shorter 22- and 24-inch barrels, the velocity figure drops to below 3000 fps, and one began to question whether there was any advantage over the more popular .270 Winchester, and rightly so. Re: 264 Win Mag for hunting, what do you think i've killed a lot of stuff with mine. You can launch a Hornady 95-grain V-Max to 3,500 fps and the Hornady 160-grain round nose to 2,800 fps. Shot placement is key, but that goes without saying. Winchester advertised the .264 Winchester Magnum (note the Imperial bore measurement) as driving a 140-grain spitzer bullet at a muzzle velocity of 3200 fps; this gives quite the flat trajectory and will handle almost all North American big-game animals, though I’d certainly want more bullet weight for the big bears, bison and even Alaskan moose. Whereas, a 6.5 in the heart or brain will achieve the desired result. 1-15. Hey guys- my dad won a Blaser 93 chambered in .264 win mag - and promptly gave it to me for Xmas about 13 years ago. I expect others did the same. The .264 may be lost in the media and marketing hype of the new short magnums and the reputations of its old rivals, the .270 Winchester and 7mm Remington Magnum. Fired from a 24-inch barrel, the 120-grain Triple Shock generates about 3,300 fps and penetrates deep. "264 Win Mag" For Sale Select A Product Type Long Guns (12) -Rifles (12) Ammunition (5) Select A Manufacturer Hornady Ammunition (1) NOSLER BULLETS (1) Remington (2) Ruger (1) The Hunting Shack, Inc. (1) Winchester (11) In spite of the magnum moniker, the recoil of the .264 Winchester is more than manageable—it was the first magnum cartridge I’d ever fired, and I was sort of let down, as it felt similar to my .308 Winchester—and allows the shooter to place accurate shots on game. When Winchester decided to introduce a fast-stepping .264 cartridge in 1958, it’s a wonder it wasn’t the .270 Winchester Magnum. performance but fits into a shorter action and has a marvelous reputation for accuracy. Hunting. The Reloading Bench. Mag. I'm pretty sure that a bull elk is pictured on the box. Metric cartridges have traditionally struggled in America, but even in the 1950s, the engineers at Winchester saw the benefits of the 6.5mm bore diameter. From left: .264 Win Mag, 6.5 Swedish, 6.5 Carcano, .260 Rem, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 Grendel via Wikipedia. Though the 6.5mm bore diameter offers bullets from 85 to 160 grains, the most popular ammunition choices have been centered around the 120-, 130- and 140-grain bullets. I wouldn’t call it a good option for plinking or high-volume target shooting. Now, 3 inches of drop at 500 yards isn’t a big deal. When I was young and addicted to ballistic charts, I dreamed of a .264 Win Mag. The .264 Winchester—like almost all of the 6.5mm cartridges—is wonderfully accurate, and achieving MOA groups isn’t a difficult prospect at all. And now with recent designs like the 6.5-300 Weatherby Magnum, 6.5 Weatherby RPM and the 6.5 PRC, the .264 Winchester seems headed for the dust bin, though it is still offered in a few rifles. The .264 is versatile, too. Early on I had Al Bieson make a stock for it, which is shown in attached photo. The Leupold VX-L scope is a recent addition. Visions of traveling to Montana to hunt mule deer in the wide open spaces made the .264 seem like the gun to have. performance: a 140-grain bullet at about 3,000 fps. If you handload, the options for the .264 Winchester open up widely, as there are a good number of premium bullets available in component form. The .264 Winchester Magnum By Chuck Hawks The smallest caliber in Winchester's series of standard length belted magnums, which includes the .264, .300, .338, and .458 Winchester Magnums, the .264 Winchester Magnum (a 6.5mm to Europeans) was designed to … One of the landmark releases was Winchester’s quartet of .30-06-length belted magnum cartridges; the third—and smallest—of which was centered around a bullet diameter rather unpopular in the U.S., at least at that time: the 6.5mm. Get the American Hunter Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. Winchester 70 Pre-64 "Westerner" Rifle (.264 Win. When Winchester decided to introduce a fast-stepping .264 cartridge in 1958, it’s a wonder it wasn’t the .270 Winchester Magnum. When they come in the form of a Barnes Triple Shock or Nosler Partition, 120- and 125-grain bullets work well in the .264. OUT OF STOCK (0) WINCHESTER 70 FEATHERWEIGHT Stainless Steel DARK. Along with the stiff competition, the .264 had several perceived strikes against it. Want to be a one-gun, one-load guy? Even lighter .264 bullets can be used with success. bullets we have today, and the average shot distance was surely less than it is today, even on the prairie and in the mountains. The Browning Citori That Killed 100 Gobblers. It shoots farther, hits harder, and allows you to take a wider variety of game. Winchester Guns 70 Extreme Tungsten 264 Win Mag 3+1 26" Charcoa. Well, the answer is the 7mm Remington Magnum that came along in 1962. When I returned the rifle to Sisk following testing, there were 28 unfired cartridges remaining, but the rifle could still put three 100-grain Ballistic Tips into a group almost too small to measure. Mag. The late 1950s saw a time of prosperity in the wake of World War II, and hunters began to travel again. If you’re a hand loader or a serious Western or plains hunter, the .264 Win. But it's popularity faded out for preference of the 7 mag, due to a wider selection of bullets and having a longer barrel life. Well, as a hunting cartridge, I think there is enough of a fan base to keep it around for a while, though I think the younger generation may frown upon the design, considering the popularity of the 6.5 Creedmoor and the head of steam that the 6.5 PRC is developing. Remember that in the late 1950s and early 1960s, we didn’t have the high B.C. Mag., Browning AB3 Hunter Grade II Walnut Matte Black Bolt Action Rifle - 264 Winchester Magnum - 26in - The AB3 Hunter is more than the sum of its parts. If you stick to whitetail and don’t want to spend time reloading or searching (and paying) for … Barrel lasted 640 rounds. Released in 1958, the .264 was designed to compete against the popular Weatherby rifles and cartridges, at nearly half the price. The 6.5-284 Norma comes surprisingly close to .264 Win. Anytime I think about that custom Sisk rifle, it reminds me of the .264’s barrel-burning reputation. Mag.). The .270 Winchester was introduced in 1925 and has become one of the most popular hunting cartridges ever created. Mag.) The 1958 release of the .264 Winchester Magnum in the Model 70 Westerner rifle saw a flat-shooting, hard-hitting voluminous case, perfect for medium-sized game. That is why SAAMI standards have the .264 wm with a 9 twist, it was designed to run 100-130 grain pills. The gun will shoot a 5/8 with 3 shot groups at 100 yards not bad for a magnum gun. We don’t use rifles here much and I don’t really travel to hunt big game right now. OUT OF STOCK (1) BROWNING X-BOLT WESTERN HUNTER 270 WIN. But the .264 wasn’t harder on barrels than the other magnums of the day. 15 total results Catalog. So why isn’t the .264 Winchester at the top of the heap? Winchester gave the .264 a 25-degree shoulder angle, which will give good headspacing. This item has a 26” barrel with a shiny bore, iron sights and checkered wood stocks. Best load was 72 grains of H870 under Norma 139 gr. Definitely look to a large rifle magnum primer, and powders on the slower side, like Reloder 19, 22 and 23, IMR 4350 and 4451, and Hodgdon H4831SC. While Winchester and its massive marketing machine held much sway in the industry, the idea of shorter 2.500-inch case (in comparison to the 2.850-inch case of the .375 and .300 H&H Magnums) wasn't exactly revolutionary. and every so often Crod1972 has once fired brass for sale in the classifieds here. Gray AmericanFlag Mesh CapFree Shipping$20.95. 2017 late season Utah elk. What’s important is the higher impact velocity, which helps the .264 bullet expand at that range. I'm looking for reloading data with a 140gr Berger VLD or a Swift Scirocco also in 140 gr. The same goes for Remington’s 7mm Magnum launched in 1962. The added versatility of the .300 was too much for most hunters to pass up. When the speed of premium bullets falls below 2,000 fps, expansion becomes questionable. Gear. The 6.5 Creedmoor Versus the .264 Winchester Magnum. Thread starter Prerylyon; Start date Aug 1, 2019; Forums. Buckmasters entertains and educates deer hunters with current strategies and technology from the most respected experts in the field. It will shoot 140-grain Remington Core-Lokts into sub-inch groups all day. I have a box of Winchester .264 mag cartridges sitting on my bench. Ammunition is available from Hornady, Nosler, Winchester and Remington does a run every once in a while; most loads use the 140-grain bullet, with a couple of 120-grain offerings. The belt—a carryover from the Holland & Holland designs—serves no actual purpose on this cartridge; I believe the H&H case was chosen for its higher case volume than any of the .30-06/8mm Mauser family, making higher velocities possible. Fire both projectiles at the same speed, and the .264-inch bullet will be traveling 200 fps faster at 500 yards and 3 inches lower than the .270 pill. Move the shoulder as little as possible and you’ll see an improvement in accuracy. So far, I haven’t found a load that gun doesn’t like. It’s just been sitting in the box, I haven’t really had a use for it. Mag. Introduced in the Model 70 Westerner rifle with a 26” barrel, the .264 … Winchester, in fact, was producing cases for Roy Weatherby’s creations—developed during WWII on shortened and blown-out .300 H&H cases—and decided to produce their own designs with a conventional shoulder in lieu of Weatherby’s radiused shoulder. .264 Win Mag on Elk. In fact, I tested this with the Scirocco II bullet and found a 20-percent difference in expansion at 1,800 fps and 2,100 fps. A dear friend and hunting mentor picked up a 264 WM earlier this year. The Hawkeye is my hunting gun 1:8 twist barrel runs the hornady 143 eld x bullets very well, topped with Nikon buckmaster 6-18X40. While having a metric name, it caught on like wildfire, offered a much wider choice of bullet weights, and isn’t nearly as hard on a barrel’s throat as the .264 can be. If I were serious about hunting with a .264 Winchester Magnum, I’d look to a premium bullet, especially if there were any chance of a close shot with high-impact velocities. The same goes for Remington’s 7mm Magnum launched in 1962. don't get impatient when reloading for the .264, as pressures can rise fast and some of the old manuals have loads that QL shows to be way over pressure. I own a Ruger Tang safety an a Ruger Hawkeye in the 264 win mag both 24 inch barrels. Taking care to avoid overheating the barrel will give the owner of a .264 Winchester much longer barrel life, as the throat can easily be eroded by velocities this high, especially the older rifles with chrome-moly barrels. If I found a used rifle in good condition at a good price and it was chambered 264 Win. ... That is a good elk rifle. Another negative was the requirement of a 24-inch barrel for the cartridge to achieve advertised velocities. And that perhaps merits a bit of discussion before the comments fly. Tested about MOA at a thousand and won some matches with it. We’ve used 270wsm, 308win, 7mm mag, 30-06 and 300 win mag and all of dropped them effectively and cleanly with a variety of bullets. It has proven Browning accuracy, proven Browning design, classic Browning looks and a level of performance you are accustomed too. This article was published in the September 2008 edition of Buckmasters GunHunter Magazine. OUT OF STOCK. 264 Win Mag, 658 yards. People hunt elk all the time with a lot less rifle. My 12 year old son running the camera. What happened to this cartridge, while the .458 Winchester, .338 Winchester and .300 Winchester went on to glory? Winchester’s first was the .458 Winchester Magnum in 1956. Description.264 Winchester Magnum 140 Grain Berger VLD-Hunting- The .264 Winchester Magnum is a belted, bottlenecked rifle cartridge. don't use cheap bullets for hunting. He's raving about his. A friend borrowed my custom Sisk rifle in .264 Win Mag to carry on a Wyoming pronghorn hunt. Both bullets generated massive internal damage before exiting. One was a reputation as a barrel burner, eroding throats in as little as 100 firings. And get this: I never, ever cleaned the barrel of that gun! Subscribe today to have GunHunter delivered to your home. Bullet Type Primer. is the way to go. Powder Metric cartridges have traditionally struggled in America—with the exception of the 7mm Remington Magnum and, quite obviously, the barrage of 6.5mms of late—but even in the 1950s, the engineers at Winchester saw the benefits of the 6.5mm bore diameter. There’s little difference in the terminal performance of the .264 Win Mag and the .270 Winchester, and duplicating .270 performance is never a bad thing. 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